BPM606060 wrote:twistednerve wrote:If a psychiatrist knows his stuff, spent long enough time and dug up history on you that is both accurate and complete enough, than you might have had a well done diagnosis of some illness that might lead to some behaviors and symptoms of what can be called psychopathy or ASPD.
Remember, though, psychopathy and ASPD are just words that might describe different things. In fact, I am of "the school of thought"(?) that believes psychopathy as it is commonly interpreted to be more on the lines of schizophrenia. And ASPD is a term that I use for people more on the lines of the narcissistic/emotionally dysregulated disorders such as HPD, NPD and BPD.
Why? Because of the cluster of symptoms and behaviors people with psychopathy present in common with people on the schizo' spectrum, and the cluster of symptoms and behaviors people with ASPD present in common with BPD, NPD and HPD. I don't think ASPDs are distracted, or have impaired social information processing or lack empathy to the point of not seeing it. In fact, I think ASPDs are no more than prototype of BPD on a more extroverted and male temperament.
Remember, though, psychopathy or sociopathy aren't official diagnosis. They're just lose descriptions of behaviors that can be found in all kinds of people, diseased or not.
And basically, an ASPD as it currently stands is nothing more than a BPD "without the girly s-hit", to some extent, as most are actually more prone to emotional outbursts or active management of their emotions be it through seeking stimulation or dulling, with drugs or drama, or any other kind of social interaction that is intense. And I find that to be girly, and also quite very BPDesque, but ultimately, outright gay.
Diagnosis are only valid if the psychiatrist who made the diagnosis or you are well informed and aren't morons.
But, usually, psychiatrists and you are uninformed morons.
And let this be instructional to all kiddies out here, playing "I am the lord of darkness, manipulative outcast with machine-like mind bent on maquiavelic acts", that this behavior is nothing more than the imagination of people prone to teenage pathetic fa-ggotry, and as madjoe said quite a few hundred times, this is more in the lines of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, as they're all a bunch of gay evil queens like that, whereas ASPDs are perpetual violent and troubled teens, with some aspects of masculinity differentiating it from BPD and not at all influenced by a Twilight character, or any gaylord refined vampire queen prototype like so many goth kiddies looking for an ASPD diagnosis base themselves on.
ASPD = BPD on men, or more masculine and austere BPD women. Troubled, dysregulated, volatile, selfish, stimulation seeker, drama queen, sadistic, sometimes very anxious, extreme need for control, manipulative, no empathy, a lot of issues with anger, depression, stuck in the emotional frame of a young teenager, etc.. ASPD isn't pretty or elegant, it's dirty, often drugged and frequently angry.
So yeah, I don't know why you people play these characters here, and so erroneously. The characters you play belong in the NPD forums, but you will soon find yourself at home there in a way you won't like, as most of the people there are regular women complaining of boyfriends and also troubled teens looking for a grandiose compensatory self image. But I don't think they're compensatory narcissists, they're just shit-ty people trying to live a fantasy. Are roleplayers disordered because they like to believe once a week they're trolls or elves? No, they need an escape from themselves in a society that demands narcissism and perfection from all of us.
Someone seems rather angry.
yes, ASPD is rather similar to BPD and being anti-social does not mean you are some sort of cool strong personality. But you are definitely not taking an objective point of view, it is rather obvious you have an an inherent bias towards these personalities. But in all fairness, so do most people on this forum anyway.
HPD > all.
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